u gotto slow your horses down

when there is a per on board.!!!

u can have the top per but the oppponent can have quads.

u got to maximize your winnings

he has bet half the pot OOP 2 twice ,

u should have bet the pot at the turn.

wrong move against tight and aggresive.

wrong move against tight and aggresive.

** Hand # 2866226014 starting - 2009-09-30 20:44:12

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (100.00|200.00 NL - STT) Real Money

poker969 sitting in seat 1 with €1565.00[Dealer]

erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1435.00

poker969 posted the small blind - €50.00

erdem posted the big blind - €100.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 3s, Ac

poker969 raised to €200.00

erdem called - €200.00

** Dealing the flop: Qd, 8s, Kh

erdem went all-in - €1235.00 >>> he told u get got something!

>> seeing flop witht the tight aggresor right....going allin with none after his raise all wrong!!!

poker969 called - €1235.00

poker969 shows: Ks, Jc

** Dealing the turn: 5c

** Dealing the river: 4h

poker969 wins €2870.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

against tight aggresive players

u should go all in in 2 steps in stead of one.

** Hand # 2866184693 starting - 2009-09-30 20:28:33

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (100.00|200.00 NL - STT) Real Money

HAKIBAKI22 sitting in seat 1 with €1585.00

erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1415.00[Dealer]

erdem posted the small blind - €50.00

HAKIBAKI22 posted the big blind - €100.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ac, 9s

erdem went all-in - €1365.00

HAKIBAKI22 called - €1415.00

HAKIBAKI22 shows: 10s, Ah

** Dealing the flop: 6d, 5h, Kd

** Dealing the turn: 8s

** Dealing the river: Kh

HAKIBAKI22 wins €2830.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

paliyng against loose people

88,99 loose aggresive will call u.

QJ...

u cant bluff a loose player

** Hand # 2866098999 starting - 2009-09-30 19:55:42

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

kepatugo sitting in seat 1 with €1410.00[Dealer]

erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1590.00 > it is the beginning.

kepatugo posted the small blind - €10.00

erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 8s, 8d

kepatugo raised to €40.00

erdem > lol

erdem raised to €280.00

kepatugo raised to €1400.00 >>>>>>>>he will do that u need to wait for the nuts...

erdem went all-in - €1310.00

kepatugo went all-in - €10.00

kepatugo shows: Jc, Qc

** Dealing the flop: Js, 7h, 7c

** Dealing the turn: 6d

** Dealing the river: 4d

kepatugo wins €2820.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

they give u the chance to lay down KK

** Hand # 2864668651 starting - 2009-09-29 23:21:06

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1580.00

bigwill25 sitting in seat 2 with €1420.00[Dealer]

bigwill25 posted the small blind - €10.00

erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ks, Kc

bigwill25 raised to €40.00

erdem raised to €60.00

bigwill25 raised to €80.00 > chance no1

erdem raised to €500.00

bigwill25 raised to €920.00> chance no2

erdem went all-in - €1080.00

bigwill25 went all-in - €500.00

bigwill25 shows: Ah, Ac

** Dealing the flop: 10h, 5s, Ad > chance no3

** Dealing the turn: 10s

** Dealing the river: 9s

bigwill25 wins €2840.00 from the main pot

***erdem played poorly, there is a better play by losing 400 max at the flop.

questions to think.

movie of stu

*** people are different every where.

*** stu used his jew money to gamble.

*** father dominant, mother supportive.

** he knew he needed a bankroll

** he took risks.

** he was ahorse he had to win

** but the thing he did was not gambling

** he was unbalanced.

** fucked up and cleaned himself.

one good move doesnt make it all good

u know u are up against a tight aggresive player.

and u can not go allin over his raise...he has at least a per...at worst AK

** Hand # 2863658144 starting - 2009-09-29 15:47:43

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (150.00|300.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1450.00

Bimbim00 sitting in seat 2 with €1550.00[Dealer]

Bimbim00 posted the small blind - €75.00

erdem posted the big blind - €150.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ad, Ks

Bimbim00 raised to €300.00

erdem called - €300.00 > no all in right

** Dealing the flop: 5d, 9h, 7s

erdem went all-in - €1150.00 >>> all in wrong as he at least have aper.

Bimbim00 called - €1150.00

Bimbim00 shows: As, Ah

** Dealing the turn: 7c

** Dealing the river: 4d

Bimbim00 wins €2900.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

Classic tight aggresive player playing against

Playing against tight aggresive people

1.u can not raise so much tight aggresive people...

>>> u got to eat the elephant by small bites.

2.last moments...not 2-1 rule

>> Go all in does not work that well

>> wait to kill him...slowly

>> dont call his allins.

3.Lose the minimum

>> when u got AA as they could get lucky on the river for if u slow play them.

small words for the net

wp...well played

mdr....mort de rire, French equivalent of LOL, meaning "laugh out loud"

respect lines

respect lines.pot size control down trips is som importnat.!!!....remember people and situtations.
taking chances...

laugh out loud = lol

LOL (also written with some or all letters lowercase) is an abbreviation for laughing out loud^[1][2] or laugh out loud.^[3] LOL is a common element of Internet slang used historically on Usenet, but now widespread in other forms of computer-mediated communication, and even face-to-face communication. It is one of many initialisms for expressing bodily reactions, in particular laughter, as text, including initialisms such as ROTFL^[4][5][6][7] or ROFL ^[8] ("roll(ing) on the floor laughing"), a more emphatic expression of laughter, and BWL ("bursting with laughter"), above which there is "no greater compliment" according to technology columnist Larry Magid.^[9] Other unrelated expansions include the now mostly historical "lots of luck" or "lots of love" used in letter-writing.^[10]

Loose aggresive people look for your mistakes

big mistakes big costs

** Hand # 2862388813 starting - 2009-09-28 21:39:56

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1925.00[Dealer]

rolfkenneth1 sitting in seat 2 with €1075.00

erdem posted the small blind - €15.00

rolfkenneth1 posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ac, Qs

erdem called - €30.00

rolfkenneth1 bet - €60.00

erdem called - €60.00

** Dealing the flop: Ks, Kh, 9c

rolfkenneth1 checked

erdem bet - €60.00

rolfkenneth1 called - €60.00

** Dealing the turn: 7c

rolfkenneth1 checked

erdem bet - €90.00

rolfkenneth1 called - €90.00

** Dealing the river: Qh

rolfkenneth1 checked

erdem bet - €120.00

rolfkenneth1 went all-in - €865.00 >> he was looking for this moment.

erdem called - €865.00

rolfkenneth1 shows: Kc, 3s

rolfkenneth1 wins €2150.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

never go all in to loose aggresive if u dont got nuts

** Hand # 2861653957 starting - 2009-09-28 15:55:39

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (50.00|100.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €2175.00

amidoucla sitting in seat 2 with €825.00[Dealer]

amidoucla posted the small blind - €25.00

erdem posted the big blind - €50.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 4s, 9s

amidoucla called - €50.00

erdem checked

** Dealing the flop: 3h, 2c, 9h

erdem checked

amidoucla checked

** Dealing the turn: 3c

erdem bet - €50.00

amidoucla raised to €150.00 >>> he told u by reraising...u dont hold the nuts it is time to drop it.

erdem went all-in - €2075.00

amidoucla went all-in - €625.00

amidoucla shows: 9c, Kh

** Dealing the river: Qh

amidoucla wins €1650.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THEN TİLT COMES IN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

** Hand # 2861654879 starting - 2009-09-28 15:56:08

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (50.00|100.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1350.00[Dealer]

amidoucla sitting in seat 2 with €1650.00

erdem posted the small blind - €25.00

amidoucla posted the big blind - €50.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Kc, Jh

erdem raised to €250.00

amidoucla called - €250.00

** Dealing the flop: 4h, 2d, 3h

amidoucla checked

erdem went all-in - €1100.00

amidoucla > y'are too bad

amidoucla called - €1100.00

amidoucla shows: Ad, 5d

** Dealing the turn: 9d

** Dealing the river: 3s

amidoucla wins €2700.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

Rake and fancy poker terms.

remember when u are in low stakes it is really hard to make profit as u are working against the rake.

but if u can make a profit there it means u are ready for the big game.!!!

verbalize your thought process

who can ask better questions is the winner in the table.

u can easiy verbalize the questions u ask yourself.

risky move to loose aggresive people

remember u when can have an ace but they are 3-1 favorate!!!!

calling of going allin is a mistake.

becareful when they tell they are coming

80 percent they are coming.

2 per not good when where is a flush on board.

be carefull your opponent is mostly know u got something from your raises.

when he has the nuts probablty second best does not count!!!!

Having the low end of the nuts

does not count :)))


** Hand # 2860798502 starting - 2009-09-27 23:55:33
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

Kensh0t sitting in seat 1 with €1440.00[Dealer]
erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1560.00
Kensh0t posted the small blind - €10.00
erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 3h, Ah
Kensh0t called - €20.00
erdem checked

** Dealing the flop: As, 5h, 6h
erdem checked
Kensh0t checked

** Dealing the turn: 4d
erdem checked
Kensh0t checked

** Dealing the river: 7d
erdem bet - €20.00
Kensh0t raised to €40.00
erdem went all-in - €1520.00
Kensh0t went all-in - €1380.00
Kensh0t shows: 9h, 8c
Kensh0t wins €2880.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

when loose aggresive hit u.

** Hand # 2860855474 starting - 2009-09-28 00:22:35
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

Kensh0t sitting in seat 1 with €2000.00
erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1000.00[Dealer]
erdem posted the small blind - €15.00
Kensh0t posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 5h, 6c
erdem called - €30.00
Kensh0t bet - €60.00
erdem called - €60.00

** Dealing the flop: 5c, 3h, Kh
Kensh0t bet - €30.00
erdem called - €30.00

** Dealing the turn: 5d
Kensh0t bet - €30.00
erdem called - €30.00

** Dealing the river: 2h
Kensh0t bet - €30.00
erdem raised to €330.00
Kensh0t went all-in - €1850.00 >>>> he seems loose but he wents all in in the nuts.
erdem went all-in - €550.00
Kensh0t shows: 7h, Ah
Kensh0t wins €2000.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

*********************

** Hand # 2860846505 starting - 2009-09-28 00:18:02
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

Kensh0t sitting in seat 1 with €1520.00[Dealer]
erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1480.00
Kensh0t posted the small blind - €10.00
erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Jd, 7c
Kensh0t called - €20.00
erdem checked

** Dealing the flop: 8c, Ah, 7h
erdem checked
Kensh0t bet - €20.00
erdem called - €20.00

** Dealing the turn: 9s
erdem checked
Kensh0t bet - €20.00
erdem called - €20.00

** Dealing the river: Js
erdem went all-in - €1420.00 >>>> loose aggresive people love it when they see it.
u have to make them go all in byut remember smart ones do not go all in.They are deceptive with the moves only.

Kensh0t called - €1420.00
Kensh0t shows: 7s, 10s
Kensh0t wins €2960.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

**********************************

suckout magic

Sit and Go BankrollStrategy for Online Poker

I recently sat in a nine seated, sit and go tournament on full tilt poker and during the first few hands, as I usually do, I sharkscoped all of my opponents. The tournament cost $10 plus one dollar for administration fee to get in and I was just being my same dutiful self in making sure I had any available advance information on my opponents.

I guess what I found shouldn't be so shocking to me anymore, because the bottom line in online poker is that more than 75% of all players lose money. The picture of profiles I was looking at with all my opponents at this table confirmed why that 75% marker is so believable. Not only did each and every one of my opponents have a losing record mired in red, each one of them were also plenty of their bankroll given the amount that they had not in online poker.

Sit and go tournament's are in my view the best and easiest, and most conservative way to learn the game and build your bankroll online. You may be one of those players who go online to play poker purely entertainment and social value. If you are, I don't know why you're wasting time on this website just go have some fun. If you are however one of the few players who are committed to improving your game and learning the basics of bankroll management using sit and go tournaments, then keep reading.

There is absolutely no reason at all given the state of the majority of opponents you find it online poker that you cannot start to build poker bankroll online using other players' money. Some successful players have even started with zero dollars. You don't have to be packed stringent on your budget, but if you do make a deposit to deposit more than $50 or $100. Depositing this amount will require that you play some relatively low buy-in sit and go tournaments. I mean like one dollar, two dollar, and working your way up to five dollar sit and go tournaments.

To be successful sit and go tournaments, you need to learn to play your opponents each and every level that you tackle. A lot of players complain about these lower levels because of be enormous amount of suck outs their opponents make. In reality, the more frequent those types of errors are made by your opponents - even if it means you losing a big pot - the more profitable those tables will be for you. It's all about how you just do your opponents, and that can be the one dollar level or the $1000 sit and go competition.

The reason you should start with such low deposits is that it forces you to learn the game at each level before moving up to a level that you might not be competent at- yet! There is an added benefit in doing this as well, in fact like building your bankroll and keeping your deposits to a minimum you are essentially playing with other players' money. Now it's not as easy as it sounds to be sure. You may actually have to reload to be made even four times with your $50 deposit. But if you find you have to do that a few times you have definitely saved yourself all lot of money on bigger deposits because obviously you weren't ready tougher competition or the type of opponents that you are actually facing.

I introduced the 50/250 rule, which basically applies strategy you holding your $50 deposit into a $250 bankroll before you start moving to higher levels such as $10 sit and go tournaments. In that sense you will have earned the right to move up because you have been a proven profitable player at the levels just below it.

After that, it's pretty easy to apply a maximum 5% buy in based on your bankroll in order to keep your budget check. For example you have $300 bankroll you wouldn't play tournaments that cost you more than $15. Keep the 5% in mind though as amaximum, where really you should be looking at something closer to 2% and 3% maximum buy-in.

This really may sound too conservative to a lot of new players. Esspecially those players just getting into the game and expecting that profits will come much quicker and easier than what I am portraying here. For a very small percentage of the online player population that may be true, they're the ones that probably don't need help and may be extremely talented or extremely lucky. Don't count yourself in that group. It's a poker bankroll mistake.

Sit and Go Points

Money management in online poker

To be a successful poker player you have to be able to exercise good bankroll management skills. If you are unable to manage your poker money correctly, you will never be able to become a long term winning poker player. Even if you were the best player in the world, it would be impossible to be able to make money from poker if you did not use good money management skills.

Bankroll management basically involves playing at a certain levels and buy-ins to help prevent yourself from going broke at the poker table. You have to set yourself limits to where you can play poker due to the variance found in every poker game. There are always going to be times where you have runs of bad luck that you cannot control, and you will lose money due to the bad runs of cards, and not necessarily due to any bad play. Therefore there is no use in putting all of your poker money on one table, because there is a good chance that you will lose it all and not be able to continue playing poker.

As a result, it is important that we have a large enough bankroll to absorb the effects of this variance so that we can continue to play poker even when we have very bad runs of cards. In addition, we don’t want to go over the top and play at micro levels with a huge bankroll because it is unlikely that we will go broke, and we want to give ourselves the opportunity to win a decent amount of money from our poker sessions. Therefore there are useful rules that you can follow to make sure that you give yourself the best opportunity to make money from poker without going broke.

money is all about making right decisions.

u can only make money if make better decisions.

such as playing rolutte is a waste of time and money.

playing without a strategy is a waste of time and money.

play in the mood of making money!

when u make bad decisions other people decide how u live not yourself.

fail to finish your opponent

** Hand # 2860111568 starting - 2009-09-27 19:15:32

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (150.00|300.00 NL - STT) Real Money

zeroxxx sitting in seat 1 with €1050.00

erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1950.00[Dealer]

erdem posted the small blind - €75.00

zeroxxx posted the big blind - €150.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ac, Ah

erdem called - €150.00

zeroxxx checked

** Dealing the flop: As, 8c, 8s

zeroxxx checked

erdem checked

** Dealing the turn: Ks

zeroxxx bet - €150.00

erdem called - €150.00 >>>>>>should have raised here.....he was a tight opponent who does not bluff...

** Dealing the river: Js >> that card is bad for flush but i should have gone allin.

later in the tournament he beat me...

zeroxxx checked

erdem bet - €150.00

zeroxxx called - €150.00

erdem shows: Ac, Ah

zeroxxx mucks: 10c, 8d

erdem wins €900.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

u not not run the first hand........sng is a skill game.

erdem : dumber>> act with no info

** Hand # 2859715575 starting - 2009-09-27 15:35:57

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1500.00

Sniper50 sitting in seat 2 with €1500.00[Dealer]

Sniper50 posted the small blind - €10.00

erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 7d, Ks

Sniper50 called - €20.00

erdem bet - €80.00

Sniper50 called - €80.00

** Dealing the flop: 7h, 5c, 8c

erdem bet - €160.00

Sniper50 called - €160.00

** Dealing the turn: Qh

erdem bet - €240.00

Sniper50 raised to €480.00

erdem called - €480.00

** Dealing the river: 3d

erdem checked

Sniper50 went all-in - €780.00

erdem went all-in - €780.00

Sniper50 shows: 4h, 6d

Sniper50 wins €3000.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

dont move when u have no info

Welcome to Normal Heads Up
>Disconnect all ins are not allowed in this game! Any disconnects will be treated as a fold by the player.
> Karina2008 sits down
> Deciding Dealer
> erdem posted small blind (10)
> Karina2008 posted big blind (20)
> Game # 2,859,549,915 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards(7d Qd )
> erdem raised for 80
> Karina2008 called for 80
> Dealing the Flop(6s 3s Kh )
> Karina2008 checked
> erdem bet for 160
> Karina2008 called for 160
> Dealing the Turn(2d )
> Karina2008 checked
> erdem checked
> Dealing the River(4h )
> Karina2008 bet for 520
erdem> babe u are loose and aggresive
> erdem folded
> Karina2008 mucked
> Karina2008 wins 1,040
> Karina2008 posted small blind (10)
> erdem posted big blind (20)
> Game # 2,859,550,691 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards(As Qh )
> Karina2008 raised for 50
> erdem went all-in for 1,220
> Karina2008 called for 1,170
> Dealing the Flop(Jh 4d Kd )
> Dealing the Turn(8s )
> Dealing the River(6c )
> Karina2008 wins 2,480 with Three of a Kind, Jacks
> erdem has left the tournament in 2nd place
> Karina2008 has left the tournament in 1st place, winning €2
> Karina2008 left the table
> Karina2008 sits down

play for the worst case ibn mind

play that they are tight and aggresive.

when u loose control ...they got u so easy

....u can not make moves on them....they check their nuts...

u got to steal from them.>>>> remember .... assume that they are good if u know notting

tight aggresive....can take risks...

but know themm....control the pot size.

** Hand # 2859459650 starting - 2009-09-27 12:39:08
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

JTL1980_fin sitting in seat 1 with €840.00[Dealer]
erdem sitting in seat 2 with €2160.00
JTL1980_fin posted the small blind - €15.00
erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Jc, 9c
JTL1980_fin raised to €105.00
erdem > bvabe u are tight but love the risks
erdem called - €105.00

** Dealing the flop: 4h, As, 9s
erdem checked
JTL1980_fin checked

** Dealing the turn: 5s
erdem checked
JTL1980_fin bet - €210.00 > OUT OF CONTROL
erdem called - €210.00

** Dealing the river: 5c
erdem checked
JTL1980_fin bet - €315.00
erdem called - €315.00
JTL1980_fin shows: 4d, Ah
erdem mucks: Jc, 9c
erdem mucks: Jc, 9c
JTL1980_fin wins €1260.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

peter principle

he cant find a place to play.

also he says up and downs.

nut lovers

** Hand # 2859401601 starting - 2009-09-27 11:45:26
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (50.00|100.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1480.00[Dealer]
kamil781 sitting in seat 2 with €1520.00
erdem posted the small blind - €25.00
kamil781 posted the big blind - €50.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: 3c, As
erdem > sorry babe
erdem raised to €200.00
kamil781 called - €200.00

** Dealing the flop: 10d, Ah, 2s
kamil781 checked
erdem bet - €50.00
kamil781 raised to €100.00 >>>> he is a nut lower he has a bigger KICKER!!!!!
erdem went all-in - €1230.00
kamil781 called - €1280.00
kamil781 shows: Ad, 7c

** Dealing the turn: 6d

** Dealing the river: 9h
kamil781 wins €2960.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

dont beleive frog stories

every problem is different.

Losing pot size control

** Hand # 2858477503 starting - 2009-09-26 21:26:18

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

patrik_ke sitting in seat 1 with €1480.00[Dealer]

erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1520.00

patrik_ke posted the small blind - €10.00

erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Js, 9s

erdem > i like tight babes

patrik_ke called - €20.00

erdem > i love them

erdem bet - €120.00

patrik_ke called - €120.00

** Dealing the flop: 10d, 9c, 4c > middle per

erdem > i love tight

erdem bet - €160.00

patrik_ke raised to €320.00 > he is aggresive and wants the most! SO to tight aggresive people fold the marginals they make money like that

erdem called - €320.00

** Dealing the turn: 4s

erdem > wow u got me babe

erdem checked

patrik_ke bet - €220.00

erdem called - €220.00

** Dealing the river: 2s

erdem checked

patrik_ke bet - €660.00

erdem called - €660.00

patrik_ke shows: 10s, Qc

erdem mucks: Js, 9s

erdem mucks: Js, 9s

patrik_ke wins €2640.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

can not go all in to tricky people

** Hand # 2858284770 starting - 2009-09-26 20:00:09

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1115.00

TDOT sitting in seat 2 with €1885.00[Dealer]

TDOT posted the small blind - €15.00

erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ad, 8s

TDOT called - €30.00

erdem bet - €150.00

TDOT called - €150.00

** Dealing the flop: 2d, 6c, 10s

erdem went all-in - €965.00 > y can not do this on tight tricky player...

he is waiting to bust u.>>> small ball works better in here.

TDOT called - €965.00

TDOT shows: Qh, Qs

** Dealing the turn: 3c

** Dealing the river: 7c

erdem > nice

TDOT wins €2230.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

palying agains a jackal

** Hand # 2858249262 starting - 2009-09-26 19:43:05

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1210.00

little068 sitting in seat 2 with €1790.00[Dealer]

little068 posted the small blind - €15.00

erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Kh, Ks

little068 called - €30.00

erdem > u have talent

erdem bet - €90.00 > OK BET

erdem > real talent

little068 called - €90.00

** Dealing the flop: 6d, Kc, 7s

erdem > i like that in a babe

erdem bet - €30.00

erdem > i love talented babes

erdem > u are one of them

little068 raised to €60.00

erdem called - €60.00 > could have reraised him more ...but ok.

** Dealing the turn: 9c >>> could have played here with more caution.

erdem bet - €240.00

little068 raised to €480.00 >> he told me that but he still could be drawing.

erdem went all-in - €820.** Hand # 2858249262 starting - 2009-09-26 19:43:05

** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1210.00

little068 sitting in seat 2 with €1790.00[Dealer]

little068 posted the small blind - €15.00

erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Kh, Ks

little068 called - €30.00

erdem > u have talent

erdem bet - €90.00

erdem > real talent

little068 called - €90.00

** Dealing the flop: 6d, Kc, 7s

erdem > i like that in a babe

erdem bet - €30.00

erdem > i love talented babes

erdem > u are one of them

little068 raised to €60.00

erdem called - €60.00

** Dealing the turn: 9c

erdem bet - €240.00

little068 raised to €480.00

erdem went all-in - €820.00

little068 called - €1060.00

little068 shows: 5c, 8d

** Dealing the river: 8c

little068 wins €2420.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

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little068 called - €1060.00

little068 shows: 5c, 8d

** Dealing the river: 8c

little068 wins €2420.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

some people ask outside....

daneil is quiet....he is better asking questions out loud.

better decision process

i am losing 60 percent of my headsup games, which makes me a loser.I need good habits on making the best decisions.

Objective > INTERNAL

Short term in the hand

1.Lose least

2.win most

Long Term poker career

1.win more then 60 percent

2.Solid bankroll

3.Earn 3000

as we see the objectives are pretty clear but u got to remember them they are the initial point of your thinking.u need something to start the engine working.u got to make decisions in the process and u got to final check them with your objectives.

such as ;

HU u got at the early stages u reaise , the villian raised u all in.U got to fold it if u wanna lose least,and have a solid bankroll.

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information

type of player

tight

aggresive

loose

calling statiton

ace on the flop

drawing board he called on the flop and checked at the turn

drawing board he called on the flop and raised at the turn

he raises on the flop with no draws and reraise your top per at the turn.

* turn u got the top per

> and u got a good kicker.

bigger card posibility at the turn

> all in

> staight on board but u got flush ..> all in

> small ball raise

> lose less

**** see there are tons of information out there.

i put a simple chart about that.u got to be collecting information to succeed.

options > FIXED

1.call

2.raise

3.fold

4.check

5.reraise

** they are pretty fixed .

but what makes it diffulty is picking the right one with evaluation.

Evaluation

1.what time in tournament ?

he is 2-1

u are 2-1

2.better opponent than u are , u got to choose coin flips

3.mix up the game

5.Reraise

drawing board ?

non drawing board ?

6.Opponent raises on a 2 way drawing board

> u got a per ?

7.Opponent raises pot on turn

> u got the bottom per.

> raise is ten percent lower your stack

> call

> raise is over 10 percent

> fold if he is a non bluffer

There should me many many questions u should ask yourself!

and the better questions u ask yourself the better decisions u make.!!!

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Implementation > INTERNAL

> return to an implementation of

1.use time wisely

> but do not mix up time limits

2.put %1 bankroll

> desyntesize money and tilt.

3.use your thought process do not play like a robot on suicide mission.

4.Your success depends on adaptation at heads up remember.

Losing ....and bad habits

109567640	26-Sep-09 01:30	NL Holdem (Sat)	$0.75	3/9	-$0.90
109564088	26-Sep-09 01:26	NL Holdem (Sat)	$0.75	7/9	-$0.90
109566188	26-Sep-09 01:25	NL Holdem (Sat)	$0.75	3/9	-$0.90
109567572	26-Sep-09 01:00	NL Holdem	$2	2/2	-$2.15
109565555	26-Sep-09 00:56	NL Holdem	$2	2/4	-$2.20
109564792	26-Sep-09 00:44	NL Holdem	$2	2/2	-$2.15

playing poker is like driving a car.u need to have good habits.

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You do want the decision process to become subconscious, yes. However, that takes a lot of practise and as a way of getting there, focus on getting certain details subconscious, one at a time.

To give an example, make a habit out of checking the stack sizes in comparison to the pot size. Do it every time, every hand, regardless of what you hold. Make it a habit and eventually you will do it without thinking about it.

Creating correct habits is harder than most people think. Not only do we not get the correct processes to our subconscious, sometimes we get BAD processes executed subconsciously and that's pretty hard to reverse.

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With every play you make, you should have a clear view of what it is you want to accomplish.

The key to making good decisions is to have an outcome in mind. You should make every play for a reason. So ask yourself what you're accomplishing before you make your play.

Conclusion
As you can see there's a lot beneath the surface of your average poker hand. You must always be evaluating and reevaluating what your goals are in your hand.

It may start out as a bluff and by the end turn into a value bet. So do yourself a favor. Stop just acting instinctually, and start giving each decision the attention it deserves.

Ask yourself why, and ask yourself what you hope to accomplish before you act. It will help your game immensely.

u get what u deserve by calling

tight aggresive type players....

here is a hand of dumb and dumber :)

a game lost to your ego

u know yout opponent is tight ans u reraise allin with no nuts.

that is your ego playing not your evalution decison system.

poker is about winning the money

not the most hands.

to people who choose hands

1.dont big bluff them

2.call them with nuts.

3.steal with small

Small Ball Poker

Texas Hold'em > Strategy > Plays > Small Ball Poker

"Small Ball" is an advanced style of play that was coined by Daniel Negreanu

.

It is hard to give Negreanu full credit for this style of play, because there is a very good chance that this style of play had previously been employed by many professional poker players but just hadn't named it.

What is small ball poker?

Essentially, small ball poker involves playing a wider range of starting hands more aggressively, but only using small bets and raises to save you from losing too much money when certain plays do not work out.

Small ball poker is intended to primarily be used in MTTs as opposed to SNGs and cash games.

Small ball poker video.

This video gives a basic overview of the small ball playing style.

It's impressively cheesy with some comically bad acting thrown in to the mix, but all the essential information for basic small ball strategy is there.

Apparently 57s is a hand good for flopping full houses. Also, 1:54 - 1:58 is fairly amusing.

Why can small ball poker be effective?

• Loose table image.
• Opponents will call more often with weaker hands.
• You can exploit this when you hold a strong hand.

This style of play can be very effective because you create a very loose table image for yourself. Therefore you should receive more action from opponents when you do have a big hand because they will perceive you as a loose aggressive player, and may feel that you are more likely to try and bluff them out of the pot.

If you play small ball poker correctly, in the long run the amount you win from opponents when they call you down with sub standard hands should outweigh the amount you lose from making consistent raises and bets without a strong hand. This is a reason why it is important to make small raises and bets instead of large, stronger bets.

Small ball poker benefits from players who call you down with mediocre hands because they do not give you credit for holding a strong hand.

The image you project onto the other players at the table is key to the success of the small ball concept. As already mentioned, the reason why this style of play is so effective is because your opponents will be more willing to call you down with marginal hands because of the way you have played in previous hands. So essentially, the small bets and raises that you may win or lose pots with in earlier hands are just setting you up for bigger hands later on in the session.

Opponents must be aware of your style of play for small ball poker to work.

It is important to remember that you are relying on your opponents to be aware of the way you are playing for small ball poker to be successful. If your opponents are not thinking about how you are playing, then you are going to have limited success.

If other players at the table are loose and are going to call your bets regardless of what table image you project, then you are better off playing a tight-aggressive style rather than small ball poker.

How to play small ball poker.

• Small ball poker tips.
• Play as many hands in position as you can.
• Learn how to play post-flop well.
• Use good starting hand selection.
• When playing weaker starting hands, play hands that have drawing potential (can make flushes or straights).

When playing small ball, you have to try and take advantage of position as frequently as possible. It is not going to be an effective style of playing if you are raising 2.5BB from under the gun or in any early position on a regular basis. The chances are that you are going to get a caller and be out of position in a pot with a hand that is probably marginal.

Save the raises for when you are closer to the button and there are little to no players already in the pot. Playing small ball poker relies on you being able to play well post flop because you are entering so many pots and allowing other players to do so cheaply. It is going to be far easier to outplay your opponents if there are less of them in the hand and if you have position.

You have to be an experienced player to be able to profitably employ the small ball playing style.

Small ball poker starting hand selection.

Another key point to playing successful small ball poker is starting hand selection. If you are going to enter a pot by raising with a less than a premium hand, then it is important that the hand you raise with has some kind of potential.

Although we are raising with less than premium hands, it does not necessarily mean that are trying to take down the blinds alone on every hand. There is a high chance that we are going to get a caller because our raises are relatively small, and so we are going to need a hand that we can work with after the flop.

The type of hands we want to play when playing small ball are connecting cards and suited cards that have some potential if/when we go to the flop.

By playing hands with potential it gives us some room to make plays and possibly make very strong hands on or after the flop. However, you should avoid getting too involved in hands when you hit middle or top pair. The chances are you will have a weak kicker, and as a general rule these types of pots should never become too big if you are going to win them.

Where is small ball poker most effective?

Small ball poker is going to be most effective in situations where the blinds are small relative to the size of the stacks. Therefore, this will be at the start of MTTs and SNGs and in cash games.

Small ball would be most suited to cash games and the early stages of tournaments.

Toward the end of tournaments the blinds will usually be too great in relation to the size of the stacks to play small ball, as there will be little room post flop plays. The last thing you want to be doing in a tournament is committing a quarter or more of your stack into a pot with a marginal hand before the flop.

Small ball would therefore be most effective at the start of tournaments. It would be fine to use in MTTs, but with SNGs there is a problem in that the structure is usually quite fast, and the period to play effective small ball will not last for long.

In addition, the image you create will become almost worthless near the end of the SNG tournament because the blinds will become so great that opponents will be forced into folding or calling regardless of what your image might have been at the start of the tournament.

What do I think of small ball poker?

Small ball poker is basically playing LAG but making smaller bet amounts.

Raising small amounts from any position at the table with marginal hands in an attempt to recreate the "small ball" style of play is not going to be a successful strategy in my opinion. In spite of this, there are actually a few genuinely effective elements to the small ball style though, such as:

• Using your position to your advantage. Basically not just playing your cards but playing your position.
• Playing more aggressively to help you "buy position".

I believe that amateur players who attempt to emulate small ball poker will get themselves in to tricky situations. You definitely need a good post-flop game to be able to play small ball poker (or should I just say LAG?).

As your game improves you may develop in to more of a loose-aggressive style of play, but that will not necessarily be "small ball poker". I believe that Daniel Negreanu may be trying a little too hard to coin a super-awesome new playing style that will take over the world of poker, but at the end of the day it's just a weak variation on an existing one.