26 Eylül 2009 Cumartesi

Losing pot size control

** Hand # 2858477503 starting - 2009-09-26 21:26:18
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - STT) Real Money

patrik_ke sitting in seat 1 with €1480.00[Dealer]
erdem sitting in seat 2 with €1520.00
patrik_ke posted the small blind - €10.00
erdem posted the big blind - €20.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Js, 9s
erdem > i like tight babes
patrik_ke called - €20.00
erdem > i love them
erdem bet - €120.00
patrik_ke called - €120.00

** Dealing the flop: 10d, 9c, 4c > middle per
erdem > i love tight
erdem bet - €160.00
patrik_ke raised to €320.00 > he is aggresive and wants the most! SO to tight aggresive people fold the marginals they make money like that
erdem called - €320.00

** Dealing the turn: 4s
erdem > wow u got me babe
erdem checked
patrik_ke bet - €220.00
erdem called - €220.00

** Dealing the river: 2s
erdem checked
patrik_ke bet - €660.00
erdem called - €660.00
patrik_ke shows: 10s, Qc
erdem mucks: Js, 9s
erdem mucks: Js, 9s
patrik_ke wins €2640.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

can not go all in to tricky people

** Hand # 2858284770 starting - 2009-09-26 20:00:09
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1115.00
TDOT sitting in seat 2 with €1885.00[Dealer]
TDOT posted the small blind - €15.00
erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Ad, 8s
TDOT called - €30.00
erdem bet - €150.00
TDOT called - €150.00

** Dealing the flop: 2d, 6c, 10s
erdem went all-in - €965.00 > y can not do this on tight tricky player...
he is waiting to bust u.>>> small ball works better in here.
TDOT called - €965.00
TDOT shows: Qh, Qs

** Dealing the turn: 3c

** Dealing the river: 7c
erdem > nice
TDOT wins €2230.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

palying agains a jackal


** Hand # 2858249262 starting - 2009-09-26 19:43:05
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1210.00
little068 sitting in seat 2 with €1790.00[Dealer]
little068 posted the small blind - €15.00
erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Kh, Ks
little068 called - €30.00
erdem > u have talent
erdem bet - €90.00 > OK BET
erdem > real talent
little068 called - €90.00

** Dealing the flop: 6d, Kc, 7s
erdem > i like that in a babe
erdem bet - €30.00
erdem > i love talented babes
erdem > u are one of them
little068 raised to €60.00
erdem called - €60.00 > could have reraised him more ...but ok.

** Dealing the turn: 9c >>> could have played here with more caution.
erdem bet - €240.00
little068 raised to €480.00 >> he told me that but he still could be drawing.
erdem went all-in - €820.** Hand # 2858249262 starting - 2009-09-26 19:43:05
** Normal Heads Up [Hold 'em] (30.00|60.00 NL - STT) Real Money

erdem sitting in seat 1 with €1210.00
little068 sitting in seat 2 with €1790.00[Dealer]
little068 posted the small blind - €15.00
erdem posted the big blind - €30.00

** Dealing cards to erdem: Kh, Ks
little068 called - €30.00
erdem > u have talent
erdem bet - €90.00
erdem > real talent
little068 called - €90.00

** Dealing the flop: 6d, Kc, 7s
erdem > i like that in a babe
erdem bet - €30.00
erdem > i love talented babes
erdem > u are one of them
little068 raised to €60.00
erdem called - €60.00

** Dealing the turn: 9c
erdem bet - €240.00
little068 raised to €480.00
erdem went all-in - €820.00
little068 called - €1060.00
little068 shows: 5c, 8d

** Dealing the river: 8c
little068 wins €2420.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00
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little068 called - €1060.00
little068 shows: 5c, 8d

** Dealing the river: 8c
little068 wins €2420.00 from the main pot

Rake: €0.00

some people ask outside....

daneil is quiet....he is better asking questions out loud.

better decision process


i am losing 60 percent of my headsup games, which makes me a loser.I need good habits on making the best decisions.

Objective > INTERNAL
Short term in the hand
1.Lose least
2.win most
Long Term poker career
1.win more then 60 percent
2.Solid bankroll
3.Earn 3000

as we see the objectives are pretty clear but u got to remember them they are the initial point of your thinking.u need something to start the engine working.u got to make decisions in the process and u got to final check them with your objectives.

such as ;
HU u got at the early stages u reaise , the villian raised u all in.U got to fold it if u wanna lose least,and have a solid bankroll.

*********************************************
information


type of player
tight
aggresive
loose
calling statiton

ace on the flop

drawing board he called on the flop and checked at the turn

drawing board he called on the flop and raised at the turn

he raises on the flop with no draws and reraise your top per at the turn.
* turn u got the top per
> and u got a good kicker.

bigger card posibility at the turn
> all in
> staight on board but u got flush ..> all in
> small ball raise
> lose less

**** see there are tons of information out there.

i put a simple chart about that.u got to be collecting information to succeed.


options > FIXED

1.call
2.raise
3.fold
4.check
5.reraise

** they are pretty fixed .
but what makes it diffulty is picking the right one with evaluation.
Evaluation
1.what time in tournament ?
he is 2-1
u are 2-1

2.better opponent than u are , u got to choose coin flips
3.mix up the game

5.Reraise
drawing board ?
non drawing board ?
6.Opponent raises on a 2 way drawing board
> u got a per ?
7.Opponent raises pot on turn
> u got the bottom per.
> raise is ten percent lower your stack
> call
> raise is over 10 percent
> fold if he is a non bluffer

There should me many many questions u should ask yourself!
and the better questions u ask yourself the better decisions u make.!!!

********************************************
Implementation > INTERNAL

> return to an implementation of
1.use time wisely
> but do not mix up time limits
2.put %1 bankroll
> desyntesize money and tilt.
3.use your thought process do not play like a robot on suicide mission.
4.Your success depends on adaptation at heads up remember.


Losing ....and bad habits

109567640 26-Sep-09 01:30 NL Holdem (Sat) $0.753/9-$0.90
109564088 26-Sep-09 01:26 NL Holdem (Sat) $0.757/9-$0.90
109566188 26-Sep-09 01:25 NL Holdem (Sat) $0.753/9-$0.90
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playing poker is like driving a car.u need to have good habits.

[quote]
You do want the decision process to become subconscious, yes. However, that takes a lot of practise and as a way of getting there, focus on getting certain details subconscious, one at a time.

To give an example, make a habit out of checking the stack sizes in comparison to the pot size. Do it every time, every hand, regardless of what you hold. Make it a habit and eventually you will do it without thinking about it.

Creating correct habits is harder than most people think. Not only do we not get the correct processes to our subconscious, sometimes we get BAD processes executed subconsciously and that's pretty hard to reverse.


[/quote]

With every play you make, you should have a clear view of what it is you want to accomplish.

The key to making good decisions is to have an outcome in mind. You should make every play for a reason. So ask yourself what you're accomplishing before you make your play.

Conclusion
As you can see there's a lot beneath the surface of your average poker hand. You must always be evaluating and reevaluating what your goals are in your hand.

It may start out as a bluff and by the end turn into a value bet. So do yourself a favor. Stop just acting instinctually, and start giving each decision the attention it deserves.

Ask yourself why, and ask yourself what you hope to accomplish before you act. It will help your game immensely.




25 Eylül 2009 Cuma

u get what u deserve by calling


tight aggresive type players....

here is a hand of dumb and dumber :)

a game lost to your ego


u know yout opponent is tight ans u reraise allin with no nuts.

that is your ego playing not your evalution decison system.

poker is about winning the money


not the most hands.


to people who choose hands
1.dont big bluff them
2.call them with nuts.
3.steal with small

Small Ball Poker


Small Ball Poker

Texas Hold'em > Strategy > Plays > Small Ball Poker

"Small Ball" is an advanced style of play that was coined by Daniel Negreanu

Small Ball Poker

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It is hard to give Negreanu full credit for this style of play, because there is a very good chance that this style of play had previously been employed by many professional poker players but just hadn't named it.

What is small ball poker?

Essentially, small ball poker involves playing a wider range of starting hands more aggressively, but only using small bets and raises to save you from losing too much money when certain plays do not work out.

Small ball poker is intended to primarily be used in MTTs as opposed to SNGs and cash games.

Small ball poker video.

This video gives a basic overview of the small ball playing style.

It's impressively cheesy with some comically bad acting thrown in to the mix, but all the essential information for basic small ball strategy is there.

Apparently 57s is a hand good for flopping full houses. Also, 1:54 - 1:58 is fairly amusing.

Why can small ball poker be effective?

  • Loose table image.
  • Opponents will call more often with weaker hands.
  • You can exploit this when you hold a strong hand.

This style of play can be very effective because you create a very loose table image for yourself. Therefore you should receive more action from opponents when you do have a big hand because they will perceive you as a loose aggressive player, and may feel that you are more likely to try and bluff them out of the pot.


If you play small ball poker correctly, in the long run the amount you win from opponents when they call you down with sub standard hands should outweigh the amount you lose from making consistent raises and bets without a strong hand. This is a reason why it is important to make small raises and bets instead of large, stronger bets.

Small ball poker benefits from players who call you down with mediocre hands because they do not give you credit for holding a strong hand.

The image you project onto the other players at the table is key to the success of the small ball concept. As already mentioned, the reason why this style of play is so effective is because your opponents will be more willing to call you down with marginal hands because of the way you have played in previous hands. So essentially, the small bets and raises that you may win or lose pots with in earlier hands are just setting you up for bigger hands later on in the session.

Opponents must be aware of your style of play for small ball poker to work.

It is important to remember that you are relying on your opponents to be aware of the way you are playing for small ball poker to be successful. If your opponents are not thinking about how you are playing, then you are going to have limited success.

If other players at the table are loose and are going to call your bets regardless of what table image you project, then you are better off playing a tight-aggressive style rather than small ball poker.

How to play small ball poker.

  • Small ball poker tips.
  • Play as many hands in position as you can.
  • Learn how to play post-flop well.
  • Use good starting hand selection.
  • When playing weaker starting hands, play hands that have drawing potential (can make flushes or straights).

When playing small ball, you have to try and take advantage of position as frequently as possible. It is not going to be an effective style of playing if you are raising 2.5BB from under the gun or in any early position on a regular basis. The chances are that you are going to get a caller and be out of position in a pot with a hand that is probably marginal.

Save the raises for when you are closer to the button and there are little to no players already in the pot. Playing small ball poker relies on you being able to play well post flop because you are entering so many pots and allowing other players to do so cheaply. It is going to be far easier to outplay your opponents if there are less of them in the hand and if you have position.

You have to be an experienced player to be able to profitably employ the small ball playing style.

Small ball poker starting hand selection.

Another key point to playing successful small ball poker is starting hand selection. If you are going to enter a pot by raising with a less than a premium hand, then it is important that the hand you raise with has some kind of potential.

Although we are raising with less than premium hands, it does not necessarily mean that are trying to take down the blinds alone on every hand. There is a high chance that we are going to get a caller because our raises are relatively small, and so we are going to need a hand that we can work with after the flop.

The type of hands we want to play when playing small ball are connecting cards and suited cards that have some potential if/when we go to the flop.

By playing hands with potential it gives us some room to make plays and possibly make very strong hands on or after the flop. However, you should avoid getting too involved in hands when you hit middle or top pair. The chances are you will have a weak kicker, and as a general rule these types of pots should never become too big if you are going to win them.

Where is small ball poker most effective?

Small ball poker is going to be most effective in situations where the blinds are small relative to the size of the stacks. Therefore, this will be at the start of MTTs and SNGs and in cash games.

Small ball would be most suited to cash games and the early stages of tournaments.

Toward the end of tournaments the blinds will usually be too great in relation to the size of the stacks to play small ball, as there will be little room post flop plays. The last thing you want to be doing in a tournament is committing a quarter or more of your stack into a pot with a marginal hand before the flop.

Small ball would therefore be most effective at the start of tournaments. It would be fine to use in MTTs, but with SNGs there is a problem in that the structure is usually quite fast, and the period to play effective small ball will not last for long.

In addition, the image you create will become almost worthless near the end of the SNG tournament because the blinds will become so great that opponents will be forced into folding or calling regardless of what your image might have been at the start of the tournament.


What do I think of small ball poker?

Small ball poker is basically playing LAG but making smaller bet amounts.

Raising small amounts from any position at the table with marginal hands in an attempt to recreate the "small ball" style of play is not going to be a successful strategy in my opinion. In spite of this, there are actually a few genuinely effective elements to the small ball style though, such as:

  • Using your position to your advantage. Basically not just playing your cards but playing your position.
  • Playing more aggressively to help you "buy position".

I believe that amateur players who attempt to emulate small ball poker will get themselves in to tricky situations. You definitely need a good post-flop game to be able to play small ball poker (or should I just say LAG?).

As your game improves you may develop in to more of a loose-aggressive style of play, but that will not necessarily be "small ball poker". I believe that Daniel Negreanu may be trying a little too hard to coin a super-awesome new playing style that will take over the world of poker, but at the end of the day it's just a weak variation on an existing one.